From their start as two mates looking to make beer money, to pivoting to Facebook Marketplace during Covid, to winning the Best Gourmet Sausage Roll in Australia, it's been a rollercoaster few years for Ben & Mitch. This month I spoke to Mitch about how he applies his fine dining training and experience to making some of the best pies and sausage rolls in the country, and what they've got entered in the Official Great Aussie Pie Competition 2025. Listen below for the full interview: